Every, and I mean LITERALLY, EVERY, thread, now numbering in the
hundreds, where EVIDENCE of the failures, lies and historical TERRORS
of Atheism and violent Atheist tyrannies are presented, the atheist
tools SNIP it all, demanding that THEIR question be answered instead!
It's always the same question, (they are a unipolar cult with only ONE
idea, and that one a feeble negativity! B^) and it is always put
as an attempt to DISTRACT from the issue.
This is a profoundly dishonest trait, and betrays a severe lack of
intellectual integrity. It is usually followed by howls of bogus
complaint that THEIR question is not being answered, if the OP
decides to IGNORE their attempted distraction! 8^o Atheists
are congenital hypocrites!
There is no reason to ask why they do it. The reasons are clear.
Atheists fear the truth and run from rational argument and historical
Atheists are narrow minded irrational bigots who oppose rational
investigation of the facts, and lack critical thought.
Atheists fear examining the historical evidence because it is compelling
proof that every great and enduring civilisation is founded and
propelled by SPIRITUAL teachings, and in ever case when asked about the
source, the answer is 'This is from God'. Alone, that is compelling
evidence, but when combined with the evidence that EVERY atheist regime
has been a bloody tyranny.. the case is overwhelming!!
Here is a textbook example, with every FACT which the Atheist's snipped
restored so their tactic can be clearly seen.
Once you recognise this pattern, Atheist Avoidance, you can see it
used in countless cases;
Post by fasgnadh Post by fasgnadh
When Atheist ad campaigner Ariane Sherine put her beliefs
on the side of a bus she copied Beer manufacturers who
qualify their unprovable claims to avoid litigation!!
Sherine, and the Atheists supporting her, including
Richard Dawkins, know they can't PROVE their beliefs,
and so they used the same fudge as LYING drug dealers use
to falsely misrepresent their product! 8^o
Sherine was clearly annoyed that the theist ads she
had misrepresented as likely to cause people
to throw themselves under the bus received only
one other complaint;
"When I called the Advertising Standards Authority,
the nice lady said they'd only received two
complaints about the bus ads, neither of which
had been investigated, because "The quotations
used are clearly from the Bible and there's
nothing in the advertising standards code to
prohibit advertising a religious message. The
website is not part of our remit."
was it okay for Carlsberg to say their lager
was "probably the best lager in the world"?
She thought so: "We haven't upheld a complaint
After that, I Googled Carlsberg and found this
marketing site, which suggests that using the word
"probably" at the start of the ad saved Carlsberg
So the Atheist bus ad's equivocation is stolen
from the Booze industry's patent dishonesty, as
a means of expressing an UNPROVABLE ASSERTION
(no more than a BELIEF) from the demand for PROOF!
Atheists have not changed since the days of Pravda,
the most ironically named Newspaper in history! B^p
"... it's possible that we can fund a much-needed
"There's probably no God. Now stop worrying and get
on with your life."
No wonder the Atheists run and hide when challenged
to provide evidence for their BULLSHIT BELIEFS!!!
a) no one was worried in the first place
b) Sherine fabricated the alleged cause pf concern
c) Sherine hysterically fantasised absurd consequences
d) There is no logical connection between the advice
and the fabricated atheist fears.
e) The Atheists knew they have no evidence for their
beliefs, and so used advertising scams used by the
drug dealers to protect themselves from action! B^D
Dawkins and Sherine fudged their ad to protect themselves
from the DEMAND FOR EVIDENCE, a tactic taken from others who
want to avoid the TRUTH!
At last! An Atheist with the good grace to apologise for their scams!
Verifyable observations of God: Zero
Commonly excepted testimony about God since 600 AD: Zero
Not true. your 'evidence' is no more than ignorance;
Judeao/Christian/Islamic civilisations are all based on
spiritual beliefs which the sources attribute to Divine
The only atheist social organisations ever created were
abominable and murderous tyrannies.
The Probability the theists are right is 1! B^D
The empirical historical evidence is indisputable! B^]
Atheism has never created even a single great enduring Civilisation.
Divine revelation is the foundation of every great and enduring
Civilisation on the planet.
In the 1800's when the intellectual fashion in the West
was summed up by the failed secularists, Freud, Marx and Nietzsche,
God was proclaimed Dead in the hearts of mankind. As Nietzsche
predicted, chaos followed in the 20th century Atheist shitholes,
and over 40,000,000 perished.
In Russia and China the Atheist tyrannies have been cast out,
and prosperity and advancement have resumed!
There probably is no God.
According to your 'logic', the Probability of Dark Matter
in the universe is Zero! B^D
You deal in beliefs, I deal in HISTORICAL REALITY and EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE!
The evidence all points to the improbability of atheists being
right about A SINGLE DAMNED THING!!!! B^D
You are the most MORONIC SLOW LEARNERS on the planet, dumber
than the xtian fundies, dumber than the Flat Earthers.
You simply IGNORE the evidence! pfffft!
Please do not compare this ad with any commercial one.
I didn't.. YOUR CULT LEADER DID.
She openly described basing your Atheist Bus Belief on
the Carlsberg Beer tactic of avoiding the lack of evidence
"Carlsberg ..say their lager
was "probably the best lager in the world""
About as much integrity as the ATHEIST CULT! B^D
"After that, I Googled Carlsberg and found this
marketing site, which suggests that using the word
"probably" at the start of the ad saved Carlsberg
At least the Drug Dealers had ORIGINALITY!
Atheists are ineffectual and irrelevant at best,
and dangerous tyrannies whenever they gain political power!
Next time READ my post BEFORE you respond to it!
You have not refuted a SINGLE FACT in it because YOU CANT, it's TRUE!
Compare it with the assertions nof Christians,
Atheist Bus Beliefs still come out UNFAVOURABLY! Sherine LIED about
# Subject: The False Beliefs of the Atheist cult exposed!
# - Ariane Sherine's Hysterical Campaign is a fraud!
# Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2009 17:55:10 +1100
# Ariane Sherine's Atheist Belief Campaign exposed as a fraud!
# The systematic proselytising of atheist beliefs on English
# and Spanish buses has been publicly presented by Atheists,
# including Sherine herself, as a response to theist beliefs
# presented on the sides of buses which Sherine claims are so
# despairing that people might instantly throw themselves
# under the bus! 8^o
# Imagine you've had a really bad day, and it's only 8.30am.
# You've spilt killer orange juice all over your crucial
# work documents, you're pressed up in a tube train
# against a commuter whose armpit smells like a
# biological weapon, and you're late for work and
# your only excuse is "I glued my hand to a dog".
# You stumble out of the tube, and are confronted
# with the number 168 bus. It tells you that, along
# with your boss, a man with a beardy face is going
# to be upset with you, for ever, because you've
# refused to acknowledge his existence, despite
# the fact that he's too antisocial to come down
# here and say hi. You promptly throw yourself
# under the number 168 bus."
# - Ariane Sherine,
# The Guardian 20/6/2008
# That is the Atheist hysteric's own description of the effect
# she claimed the theist messages on London Buses could have!
# It's the absurdist rant of a blithering Lunatic!
# [In fact the "Advertising Standards Authority" had only ONE
# other complaint, and no suicides were reported! B^]
# The complete misrepresentation of the theist campaign becomes
# clear when you read it, and discover it is merely a QUESTION,
# inviting the readers response, and makes no mention of Hellfire
# "Yesterday I walked to work and saw not one, but
# "When the son of man comes,
# will he find faith on the earth?"
# (Luke 18:8)." -ibid
# Hands up those of you who are terrified, in despair and suicidal
# after being asked that question.. apart from the atheists of course,
# who seem to be SHITTING THEMSELVES IN HYSTERICAL PANIC!
# And the ridiculous fantasy that reading such an innocuous question
# will tip people into suicidal despair, is fully backed by Richard
# Dawkins,supported and FUNDED by the Atheist cult at large!
# Cult is the ONLY appropriate term for simple minded idiots
# who could, uncritically, accept such arrant NONSENSE on BLIND FAITH!
# And so, with no one throwing themselves under buses, or evening
# being worried enough to complain, in fact no evidence anyone except
# the Hysterical, lying Atheists gave a toss at all, the cult
# produced the first of their counter-beliefs.
# Apparently, they followed a website link to those who
# ran the ads, read the Bible and scared themselves stupid
# by their Fundie Literalist reading, (which precisely matches
# some of the Fundie Literalist theists! B^)
# Other atheists, clearly accepting the Official Atheist line
# without Question, have repeated her false claim that the Bus
# "Remember, that message of Hell is already being advertised on
# buses... the atheist ads were inspired by the Christian
# Naturally the Atheist campaign is inspired by the Theist texts,
# that's where all their ideas come from.. if only they didn't
# misunderstand and misrepresent them so tragically
# Atheism: The Blind leading the Blind Faithful! B^D
who despite the absence of any verifyabel observation
History is observable.
and despite the fact that they assume God hasn't spoken for centuries,
Rubbish, the Church recognises that Muslims worship the same God.
claim - with certainty that there is one.
The historical evidence is convincing, that's why,
after the Atheist regimes of the 20th Century,
you are a tiny, insignificantly small and ineffectual
minority, reduced to stealing theist ideas for your
Bus Beliefs, and the theists number in the Billions. B^D
People are not stupid, they know what is efficacious
and unlike you atheists, they LEARN from the mistakes of history!
Now who is the liar?
Sherine, as I have proven above.
Shalom and Salaam
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As you can see, NOTHING in my original post is refuted, the case
against a HISTORY of Atheist lies, slanders and brutal regimes
is UNARGUABLY strong!
Instead, we have the ATHEIST AVOIDANCE;
Would you be so kind as to supply me with a single arguement of less
than 100 words provng the existance of God?.
It seems polite, but looked at now, in context, it is simply
an attempt to GROUND SHIFT, a diversion!
Why would any rational person produce MORE evidence of the Falsity
of Atheism when intellectually dishonest atheists have merely snipped
all the evidence already presented!
My case is made and not disputed! A clear defeat for the Atheists
You refuse to deal with ANY of the Evidence presented to you..
why would I cast more pears before ignorant swine?
Thre seems to be no way to disprove the existance, but I have never
seen proof that there is a od.
You never will, PROOFS exist only in mathematics.
Evidence, however is manifest in history.
I have been presenting it, Atheists have been ignoring it.
Their own beliefs are MERE OPINIONS, and CANNOT BE SUBSTANTIATED;
So having seen these mental midgets do NOTHING but avoid the argument
they cannot beat, we get the abuse of the 'tards; BWAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAA
You have a serious mental problem.
when there is NO objective verifiable evidence
that you have left unsnipped! BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAA
that Gods exist, you clim this is evidence
for it's existence.
Only those who have disputed and refuted the evidence
have a right to comment on it's validity, moral defectives
who snip and ignore it merely get ridiculed! B^]
says that those who remove every fact, every rational argument,
replace it with an attempt to shift ground and then whine when
their pathetic tactic is EXPOSED, have conceded the argument.
is if there is NO objective verifiable evidence ofr somethings
existence it i logical to conclude it does not exist.
I accept your concession that you HAVE NO LOGICAL ARGUMENT! B^D
Everything *I* wrote is indisputably true, your abject failure
to dispute ANY of it is proof.
Consistent lies by and failure of Atheists and consistent
contributions to truth, science, great art, social progress,
compassion, kindness, and CIVILISATION by theists IS Evidence
for the existence of God.
To dispute that claim you would have to have demolished every
post I have ever made, patiently detailing the horrors of
atheist regimes (ALL of them tyrannical shitholes beyond
humanities worst nightmares) and the glories of Divinely
Inspired human Civilisation!
And as we have all seen, none of you have ever laid a blow
on that HISTORICAL EVIDENCE!
For you to ponce about, having presented not a single fact
nor rebutted not a single one of mine, let alone your
abject failure to build ANYTHING which could be called a
logical argument, to spout the terms 'logic' and 'mental
problem is simple hilarious!
I leave you here to continue your rant, for something so
devoid of facts or logic, so completely baseless OPINION,
is nothing more than your assertion of a BELIEF, one
not founded on reason or evidence, but on speculation
Obvious evidence. There are hundreds of different gods and religions. Why
would any real god not inform his creations he is the real god and all the
others are fakes!
He has. And every false god has been defeated.
New ones pop up.. would you like to see the Bus ads run by a new,
pseudo-scientific CULT.. ??
No of course you wouldn't, you would snip it and run a mile! B^D
Why would any REAL GOD permit his creations to be so misled and confused by
all these false gods? He would smite all these false Gods!
I don't see any temples to Baal, do you? B^]
People stone Iblis in effigy, and struggle against the ignorance,
which it represents, in their daily lives
A few Atheist Bastets, tolerated because their mere existence is
a warning to others of what they could become!!! B^D
It is obvious.
That which is real and true, endures, because people from
the conversion of Constantine to today, recognise that which
works to create great and enduring civilisations, successful
human relations, societies based on decent values of Love,
compassion JUSTICE and mercy!
But I love the way you adamantly sloganise your unsupported BELIEFS
with the vehemence of a fundie fanatic;
There are NO REAL GODS. They are all figments of man's
No sane member of the 7 BILLION humans on this earth has ever seen or heard
any word from any God because they only exist in people's imaginations!
mere assertions that everyone living in a society run by a rational,
sane believer, are worse off than the 40,000,000 victims of these
Atheists tyrants, so convinced that they alone have the truth, an
FORCE IT DOWN OUR NECKS by the most violent tyrannies mankind
has ever experienced!
Compare the VISION, the HOPE, and the GROUNDED REALISM of Obama,
a rational believer with the historical reality of atheism;
"State atheism is the official promotion of atheism
by a government, typically by active suppression of
religious freedom and practice."
- "Protest for Religious Rights in the USSR:
Characteristics and Consequences,
Russian Review, Vol. 39, No. 4 (Oct., 1980), pp. 426-441,
"An atheist, Pol Pot suppressed Cambodia’s Buddhist religion:
monks were defrocked; temples and artefacts, including statues of
Buddha, were destroyed; and people praying or expressing
other religious sentiments were often killed.
...the government emptied the cities through mass evacuations
and sent people to the countryside. Cambodians were overworked
and underfed on collective farms, often succumbing to disease or
starvation as a result. Spouses were separated and family meals
prohibited in order to steer loyalties toward the state
instead of the family.
About 1.7 million Cambodians, or about 20 percent of the population,
were worked, starved, or beaten to death under Pol Pot’s regime."
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"The country's 40,000 to 60,000 Buddhist monks,
regarded by the regime as social parasites,
were defrocked and forced into labor brigades.
Many monks were executed; temples and pagodas were
destroyed or turned into storehouses or jails.
Images of the Buddha were defaced and dumped into
rivers and lakes. People who were discovered praying
or expressing religious sentiments in other ways
were often killed.
The Christian and Muslim communities were among the most
persecuted, as well. The Roman Catholic cathedral of
Phnom Penh was completely razed.
The Khmer Rouge forced Muslims to eat pork, which they
regard as an abomination. Many of those who refused were killed.
Christian clergy and Muslim imams were executed."
"Forty-eight percent of Cambodia's Christians were killed
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“Atheism is the natural and inseparable part of Communism.”
-Vladimir I. Lenin
“Our program necessarily includes the propaganda of atheism.”
- V.I. Lenin
"You know, they are fooling us, there is no God...
all this talk about God is sheer nonsense" - Stalin
- E. Yaroslavsky, Landmarks in the Life of Stalin,
Foreign Languages Publishing House, Moscow 1940
But it was not just the Atheism of the leadership,
but of the entire State apparatus;
The Atheist leadership's policies were implemented under
the red Terror, via gulags and executions, the use of
every arm of the state for anti-religious propaganda
and the forced indoctrination of CHILDREN! B^[
“We do not fight against believers and not even clergymen.
WE FIGHT AGAINST GOD to snatch believers from Him.”
-Vechernaia Moskva, a Soviet newspaper
“Let us drive out the Capitalists from the earth,
and God from Heaven!” (early Soviet slogan)
"the state established atheism as the only scientific truth."
- Daniel Peris,
"Storming the Heavens: The Soviet League of the Militant Godless"
Cornell University Press 1998 ISBN 9780801434853
"Criticism of atheism was strictly forbidden"
"Between 1917 and 1940, 130,000 Orthodox priests were arrested.
In 1918, the Cheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky executed over
3000 Orthodox clergymen of all ranks.
Some were drowned in ice-holes or poured over with cold water
in winter until they turned to ice-pillars.
In 1922, the Solovki Camp of Special Purpose, the first Russian
concentration camp was established in the Solovki Islands in the White Sea"
John Shelton Curtis, The Russian Church and the Soviet State
(Boston: Little Brown, 1953)
Religion is things hoped for but not yet seen or proven.
You have no idea what religion is, snip all evidence of the truth
and battle caricatures of your own making, IDOLS of your imagination!
Science is things seen and proven but not necessarily hoped for.
Atheists are not the allies of science, but as I have shown,
the historical enemies of progress.
Your refusal to face evidence, snipping instead of REFUTING what
you don't believe, shows you are not fit to be a scientists arsehole!
There is NO objective verifiable evidence that any Gods, Heavens, Sin,
Hells, Devils or Angels exist except in the imaginations of religionists.
And every page of human history, writ large in our evolution towards
These beliefs are held
to help people deal with their panic fear of death and what comes after.
You lie like Sherine does, by ignoring what was actually on the Theist
Bus ads, and making shit up!
Who do you think you are fooling?
Answer, other atheists, who like you, accept anything the Borg tells you
When there is NO objective verifiable evidence for something's existence it
is logical to assume it does no exist.
So You have no case! You not only have no evidence for a single
assertion you have made, but you snipped the evidence presented to
you which you COULD NO REFUTE.
I have shown you how it's done, but a closely argued, point by point
refutation of each bogus assertion you have made.
You will ignore my tour de force, snip all but the bits relating to
your Obsessive ATHEIST AVOIDANCE tactic, and expect me to shift ground
I will, as always insist on bringing you back to the topic, demonstrate
all the evidence you snip and avoid, add more to drive home my point,
tap dance on your pathetic sophistry, for my own amusement and that
of the reader, and mock you mercilessly.. because I have no illusions
that I can convince the illogical and irrational with reason and logic,
I just use you as a teaching tool, while speaking to the wider audience.
That's why you atheists snip newsgroup headers to remove related groups
interested in the debate, so you can hide the shame of your defeat, and
I replace them, so others can share my victories over you and the fun of
watching you run from the truth!
The LACK of evidence is not evidence of something's existence.
So your argument is non-existent!
The objective evidence is that no gods created man but quite the opposite;
that man created imaginary gods! (hundreds of them!)
Judeao Christian Islamic civilisation is the dominant intellectual,
scientific, cultural and spiritual force on the planet, and it has
direct, pre-existing and growing links to other great and enduring
civilisations based on Spiritual Teachings.. all sourced from the One
God, as the World religions, as they increasingly enter into
# "DECLARATION ON THE RELATION OF THE CHURCH
# TO NON-CHRISTIAN RELIGIONS
# NOSTRA AETATE
# PROCLAIMED BY HIS HOLINESS POPE PAUL VI
# 3. The Church regards with esteem also the Moslems.
# They adore the one God, living and subsisting in Himself;
# merciful and all- powerful, the Creator of heaven and earth,(5)
# who has spoken to men; they take pains to submit wholeheartedly to
# even His inscrutable decrees, just as Abraham, with whom the faith
# of Islam takes pleasure in linking itself, submitted to God."
Of course the Christian Bible has proclaimed the Unity of God for
millennia, long before there were Christians to argue over it;
"Hear oh Israel, they Lord thy God, the Lord is One!"
And Islam similarly proclaims it in the Muslim's daily
statement of faith in ONE GOD...
"La illaha illa allah"
... based firmly on the Qu'ran;
# "And argue not with the People of the Scripture
# unless it be in ( a way) that is better,
# save with such of them as do wrong;
# and say: We believe in that which hath been revealed unto us
# and revealed unto you;
# our God and your God is One,
# and unto Him we surrender."
# - The Qu'ran Sura 29 verse 46
One God, many paths! B^]
One Planet - One People
There is only ONE 'race', the Human Race:
"THE GENOGRAPHIC PROJECT, A LANDMARK FIVE-YEAR STUDY
CONDUCTED BY IBM AND NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC EXPLORES
THE ROOTS OF HUMANITY
In the space of just a few thousand generations,
the linguistic, cultural and genetic diversity
of the human race has exploded. Scientists agree
that all humans share a common ancestry in Africa.
Much less well understood is how the human race
migrated out of Africa and became so diverse."